Thursday, December 23, 2010

Top Interviewer Fibs & Translations

It may be related to the holidays, but there appears to be a theme in the latest messages this week regarding honesty by corporate interviewers.

Or rather, the lack of it.

So, in an effort to find a way to laugh at the situation - the only other alternative would be to cry, one supposes - we present this unofficial translation of what the interviewer says and what s/he actually means.  Enjoy!

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"We're always in the market for good talent."
We're in a hiring freeze but happy to talk with you if it means we can skip a few of our other meetings. 


"We have a strong commitment to diversity."
We have some statements on every room in the building that one of our executive committees drafted a few years ago.  Nobody remembers who they were... 

"We want to fill this position right away."
You can expect to hear back from us in a few weeks - y'know, if we bother to get back to you at all. 

"We'd like you to come in and give us a sample presentation of how you would pitch our services."
We want to mine you for free input and ideas we can give to whomever we hire. 

"We'd like to see a sample marketing plan of how you would organize things."
Ditto. 

"I run a tight ship around here."
I micromanage. 

"We're pretty hands-on in terms of how we do things."
Ditto. 

"I know this salary is a bit below what you're expecting, but we can revisit this in six months."
We're not going to revisit anything.  This is what you'll get; take it or leave it. Oh, by the way, how long have you been out of work?

"We're not looking at any internal candidates because none of them had the skills we felt were essential for this position as we've reconfigured it."
No internal candidates want to work with me. 

"The salary is still being determined."
We want whoever is willing to work the cheapest. 

"There has been some turnover in this position."
There's a body count. 

"Our senior manager is pretty demanding."
We work for a tyrant. 

"I would describe our management style as one of consensus-building."
Nobody here can make a decision.

"We're a very risk-averse organization."
We like to do things the way we've always done them.  If you try anything new, you won't be seen as a team player and will be marginalized.


Got your own experiences?  Feel free to share...

Wednesday, December 22, 2010

Liar, Liar...

If there is one mantra that has been repeatedly drilled into my own head throughout my job search, it's this:  "Never lie."  Sure, it sounds like what Mom and Dad always told us as children, but the fact is candidates who attempt to cover something up or who try to "shade" something more often than not get found out - and also don't get hired.

If only companies played by the same rules.

Leaving aside the dishonesty of advertising for positions that don't exist - a common pet peeve here at Modern Sisyphus - it turns out that there are a number of common lies interviewers tell candidates.  How do I know this?  Well, for starters, I've heard many of them; and I suspect you have as well.  Check out Bloomberg's listing of "21 Lies You'll Hear on a Job Interview" and see how many sound familiar.  (Note the interesting image selection for some of these...)

How to Have a PR Disaster

One of the reasons I started this blog was to give a voice to the job seeker who routinely encounters corporate insanity & unprofessional behavior during the hunt.  Countless articles have been published about all the things job candidates do wrong, but very few (if any) address the kinds of blunders that only a bureaucratic mentality could deliver. 

Case in point?  Imagine being this company's PR manager and having to pick up the pieces after downsizing 900 employees by way of conference call.  (You read that right - not in person, but via electronic means.)  If you saw George Clooney's movie, "Up in the Air," then perhaps what they say about life imitating art is in fact true. 

Anyway, here's the link:

http://www.ragan.com/Main/Articles/42597.aspx

Tuesday, December 21, 2010

Oops...

Remember the fable about the architect who meticulously designed a massive library only to watch it sink further into the ground every year because he forgot to account for the weight of the books?  Or the engineers who (reportedly) tested aircraft windshields via a cannon that could fire bird carcasses at varying speeds only to realize after a number of failed tests that they first needed to thaw the birds?  Well, much like that, interviewers and candidates make many of the same boneheaded mistakes because - well, because we're all just human, really.  Read on...

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I was looking forward to a prominent interview with a renown historical college, so I printed out the map using Googlemaps and checked it against Mapquest.  Both covered streets I was familiar with, and both told me I would need approximately 35 minutes for the drive.  No sweat, I thought, I'll give myself an hour so I have extra time.  Turns I was still almost late for the interview.  Why?  I had forgotten to allow time to find parking...

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My wife and I got a GPS system for our cars, and I thought they were God's gift to navigation.  In fact, I stopped doing dry runs for interviews since I knew I could count on the GPS to get me where I needed to go.  Well, that worked fine until I was late for an interview after trying to go the route my GPS was telling me to go but finding that the entire area was under construction and I needed to find a detour...

Try explaining that to your interviewer!

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I once interviewed for a position with a prominent banking firm.  Since it was a bank, I figured I had better dress for the part.  So I wore my best outfit - suit, tie, cuff links, you name it.

I forgot it was going to be "casual Friday," so I got to spend the day being interviewed by people in their blue jeans...

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And last but certainly by no means least, we have this example of how art imitates life - suffice it to say we all need to be reminded from time to time on the importance of "grace" under pressure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENgJZlmgI6U

Friday, December 17, 2010

Friday Funnies

Whoever once said that December is a slow month for job seekers obviously underestimated the potential for holiday madness.  (This writer probably qualifies strongly in this regard.)  Companies may put off hiring decisions until after the New Year, but that's not to say they let the weeks leading up to Christmas and New Year go to waste on the interview front.  Maybe it's a desire to help during what is supposed to be a festive time of year, or maybe it's a general preference to do anything other than regular work; but whatever the reason, the interviews continue for many - and in some instances, even pick up.

And with so much running around, it's helpful to take a few moments to smile.  To that end, we submit the attached list of puns forwarded to me by a retired friend currently enjoying his life as a ski bum in Utah.  (Not jealous...not jealous...not - oh, who am I kidding here?)

Enjoy!


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1.  My first job was working in an Orange Juice factory...
But I got canned. Couldn't concentrate.

2. Then I worked in the woods as a Lumberjack...
But just couldn't hack it, so they gave me the axe.

3. After that, I tried being a Tailor, but wasn't suited for it...
Mainly because it was a sew-sew job.

4. Next, I tried working in a Muffler Factory...
But that was too exhausting.

5. Then, tried being a Chef--figured it would add a little spice to my life...
But just didn't have the thyme.

6. Next, I attempted being a Deli Worker, but any way I sliced it...
Couldn't cut the mustard.

7. My best job was a Musician...
But eventually I found I wasn't noteworthy.

8. I studied a long time to become a Doctor...
But I didn't have any patience.

9. Next, was a job in a Shoe Factory...
I tried hard but just didn't fit in... 

10. I became a Professional Fisherman...
But I discovered I couldn't live on my net income. 

11. Managed to get a good job working for a Pool Maintenance Company... 
But the work was just too draining. 

12. So then I got a job in a Workout Center...
But they said I wasn't fit for the job.

13. After many years of trying to find steady work, I finally got a job as a Historian...
Until I realized there was no future in it...

14. My last job was working in Starbucks...
But I had to quit because it was the same old grind.

15. SO, I tried retirement 
AND FOUND I'M PERFECT FOR THE JOB!       

Sunday, December 12, 2010

The Power of the Perilous Pipeline...

Anyone who's been in the job market knows the horrors of The Pipeline - that evil, siren-like lure that captures job seekers' attention and entices them with possible employment and follow-up interviews only to turn on them at the last moment with a smile of betrayal that says, "Just kidding!"

Believe it or not, it's more common than you think - in fact, according to many candidates, it's not just a majority of postings that they see that turn out to be pipeline interviews, it's interviews as well.  Once upon a time, major companies and consulting organizations were the chief culprits who utilized this less-than-honest practice.  "Hey, we're always on the lookout for good talent," they would say.  "So send us your resume, and if we have a fit, we'll see what we can do."

Translation:  We may or may not have a fit, but we don't want to be that honest with you because then you might not apply with us; so send us your resume and make sure you are as honest as possible with us (even though we're not playing by those rules ourselves) and maybe - just maybe - we'll grant you an interview.

So what happens?  A desperate job seeker gets a phone call for a possible interview and quickly shifts into overdrive, reviewing the Web site, reading up on the company's history, mapping out answers to likely questions, and walking through repeated dry runs until s/he is ready for that first interview...then the second...the third...and maybe even more.  And after a few more face-to-face discussions?

Sorry, kid. 

Now it's true that once upon a time this practice was used by larger corporations as a way of always ensuring a steady pipeline of applicants and potential candidates, but it turns out that it's not just the consulting firms, who play this game any more.

Nowadays, it's the entire job market.


In her book, Nickel and Dimed, Barbara Ehrenreich points out that many organizations that hire blue-collar positions (i.e., cleaning ladies, waitresses, janitors, etc.) make a point of placing advertisements every so many weeks due to the high levels of turnover in their industries.  In other words, an ad is printed regularly every few weeks just to ensure a steady supply of resumes and applicants so the organization can be ready at a moment's notice in the event someone jumps ship or changes jobs.

Which would be perfectly reasonable if it weren't for one ugly truth:  Organizations following this practice seldom if ever admit to their applicants that the interviews they are scheduling are "pipeline interviews" vs. actual vacancies that need filling.  Put more simply, if you're an applicant, you never know whether you're interviewing for an actual job or as part of someone else's monthly candidate review quota.

So, what's the impact of this practice?  Well, on one hand it does what it sets out to achieve:  It gives the company a steady supply of resumes and viable candidates who are ready to assume positions if/when they appear.  But on the other hand, it does a tremendous disservice to the applicant who spends a great deal of time preparing to interview for a position that, in the end, does not even exist.  It also costs the company thousands of dollars every year in terms of staff time since the people whose schedules are disrupted to interview and evaluate this person must ultimately admit that their evaluations and summations amount to a colossal waste of time if the company has no interest in hiring someone.

Or to be absolutely blunt:  People whose time could be better spent more productively are instead required to become part of an elaborate charade that serves neither their interests nor the candidates' in the long run.

In fact, one could even argue that this practice actually hurts the organization more than it helps since the disgruntled applicant is far more likely after such an experience to dissuade friends and colleagues from applying to the company after such mistreatment.  "Don't bother applying there," they will say.  "I went through several interviews with them only to find out at the end that they were in a hiring freeze."  Moreover, in the digital era, it's not difficult for a deceived or misled applicant to vent his or her frustrations anonymously on any one of a number of job-related Web sites such as Glassdoor or the Vault.  Over time, as the power of the Web reaches further and further, such practices will undoubtedly lead to increasing numbers of disgruntled applicants venting their frustrations electronically and dissuading competent applicants from bothering to apply to a particular firm.  While one or two negative postings might easily be overlooked, such contentions become increasingly difficult to dismiss as the number of mistreated applicants increases.

Or put more succinctly, over time, applicants' information pipelines may yet someday rival those of the companies where they apply for positions.  That will be an interesting dynamic indeed.

Monday, December 6, 2010

Two Friends Look at the Current Job Market

(Editor's Note:  The following is based on actual conversations I have had with a number of friends but is a compilation rather than an actual transcript.) 

"So, tell me," my friend said as he settled back on our sofa and raised a glass of Scotch.  "Why have you been out of work for a year?"

I smiled.  It was going to be a long discussion. 

"Nobody's hiring," I told him.  "Lots of places advertise that they have jobs to fill, but few are actually bringing people on board.  Most are still in a freeze because they're unsure what a lot of the new health care and financial regulations are going to mean."  I paused to take my own sip of Scotch.  "And Congress going back and forth on whether to allow the last presidential administration's tax cuts to expire or to reinstate them only adds to the uncertainty and confusion." 

My friend shook his head.  "Aw, c'mon," he said.  "There have to be jobs out there.  Where have you been looking?"

I took another sip.  I was going to need it.  "Everywhere," I told him.  "Federal government, private sector, local opportunities, those in other states - you name it."

"But wait," he said.  "You live in the DC area.  Isn't this supposed to be one of the hottest job markets in the country?"

"Yes," I told him.  "If you have prior federal experience or a security clearance." 

"Well, that shouldn't be too hard for you," my friend said.  "You're one of the most straight-arrow types I know."

"Doesn't matter," I countered.  "A clearance can cost as much as $30,000.  No company wants to invest that kind of money to clear someone, especially in an area like this one where there are so many people with clearances already looking for work."

"So, you're telling me that the only jobs that are out there with the government require security clearances?" my friend said doubtfully.  "That doesn't make a whole lot of sense."

I took another sip.  At this rate, I would need a refill soon.  "No, they don't," I told him.  "But the federal government is notoriously slow when it comes to processing people's applications.  In fact, it can take up to six months for a lot of the paperwork to run through the normal channels.  One of the women I've been talking with has been trying to help me land a position since July."

My friend coughed.  "Since July?" he said, sputtering his Scotch. 

I nodded.  "Yep.  Since July."

My friend paused.  "By the way," he said.  "Nice Christmas tree."

"Thanks," I told him, pausing to refill his glass and mine. 

"So, okay, forget the federal government then," he said.  "What about the local jobs market?"

"All of that is tied to the federal government as well," I told him.  "We call them 'Beltway Bandits.'  Any company here that does any business at all is almost always tied to the federal government in one way or another.  That means you have to have - "

"Wait, don't tell me," my friend said.  "Prior federal experience?"

"Exactly," I told him. 

My friend paused.  "Well, what about the nonprofit sector?" he asked.  "You used to work for a few of them.  Couldn't you just go back there?"

I smiled wearily.  "I suppose," I said.  "But most nonprofits don't offer careers, only positions.  You join one - and probably make a below-market salary, by the way - and the job you get is the job you'll have as long as you're there."

"Why is that?" my friend asked.

"Because they typically have small staffs of one or two hundred at the most," I told him.  "Some of your larger ones will have more, but they pigeon-hole like all the rest.  That's why you often see so much turnover in the nonprofit sector.  People come in, they do the same job for a few years, and then they move on.  There are some 'lifers' who do the same job for twenty or thirty years; but I can't imagine working like that with no potential for promotion or career development."

My friend took another sip of his Scotch.  "Mm," he said.  "That's good Scotch."

"It should be," I reminded him.  "You bought it, remember?"

"Well, you are out of work."

"Don't remind me."

"Okay, so let's break this down.  You can't find a federal job without waiting for six months, you don't want to go the nonprofit route because you don't want to make a substandard salary for some place that will never promote you, so what's left?  Surely those 'Beltway Bandits' must have some non-federal positions?"

"Some do," I told him.  "But almost all of them are IT-related.  When I was getting my MBA, one of the recruiters they even had come and speak to our class told us that if you weren't in IT, there really wasn't a job market here in this area for you."

"And your background again is?"

"Marketing and communications," I told him. "But I did learning and development at my last job, so I've been focusing on that as well."

"Well, that shouldn't be too hard," my friend said.  "Just find a company that's looking for L&D and target them."

I laughed.  It was almost like we were talking different languages.

"Not that easy," I told him.

"Why not?" my friend asked.  "You have a good resume.  You've got experience.  Surely, someone out there has to have a job somewhere."

I shook my head.  "It's not like you think," I told him.  "Most places are happy to interview - "

"Okay," my friend interrupted.  "So, do we need to work on your interview skills?"

"- but they aren't hiring anyone at the moment," I finished.

My friend looked at me quizzically.  "What do you mean?  I was looking at Web sites before I came up here to visit you, and I saw dozens of job listings for different companies."

"Job listings are one thing," I said.  "Actual jobs are quite another."

"What do you mean?" my friend asked.

"Oh, companies are happy to advertise and interview," I told him.  "But just because you see a position listed on a company's site doesn't mean that it's hiring or that the position reflects an actual job."

"What are you saying?" my friend asked.  "You're telling me a company would falsely advertise for a job that doesn't exist?"

"Mm, not necessarily falsely," I replied, watching the light twinkle in my Scotch glass.  "It's not so much that they advertise for jobs that don't exist so much as they advertise for positions that they're not ready to fill just yet."

My friend shook his head.  "I don't understand."

"Let me put it this way.  Companies will always tell you that they're looking for key talent, right?"  My friend nodded.  "It's what helps them maintain a competitive edge, there is always some turnover some place, and you never know what might pop up, right?"  My friend nodded again.  "But a lot of times, companies go into hiring freezes, particularly at the end of the year - "

"Like now?"  He nodded toward our tree.

"Like now," I replied. 

"But don't they pull the positions down when they do that?" my friend asked.

I shook my head.  "Too much effort to take something down and then put it back up," I told him.  "Besides, many times those listings are left up after a position is filled because people haven't gotten around to taking it down."

"Wait a second," my friend said.  "You're telling me companies leave positions up online even if they're in a freeze and even after they've filled them?"

"All the time," I said.

My friend shook his head.  "I don't understand.  Why would a company waste time leaving something like that up if they're not going to fill it?  They wouldn't want to waste their time talking to someone if a job's not going to be filled, that wouldn't make any sense!"

"Wrong again," I corrected him.  "Companies will always say they're on the lookout for good talent, and they'll always be happy to interview you, sometimes two or three or even four or five times.  But in the end, if they don't have a position that fits you, they just tell you at the end, 'Thanks, but no thanks'."

"Oh, c'mon," my friend said.  "What company would waste time talking to a candidate and interviewing him once or twice - let alone more times than that - if they didn't have a position?  Why would you p*ss off a candidate like that and waste staff time for something that you're not going to fill in the first place?  What kind of company would do that?"

I listed three prominent consulting firms I had interviewed with over the past year. 

"You mean to tell me," my friend said.  "You've had interviews with all three of those firms, and in every case you were called back for multiple interviews but in the end there wasn't a position?"

"Yep," I told him.  "In fact, I didn't even know what kind of position I was interviewing for when I spoke with them."

"WHAT?!?!"

"That's the way some of these big companies operate," I told him.  "They bring you in for the interview because they want to see if you'd be a 'fit' for them, but they're not sure where they would place you or even if they can place you, so they interview you and if you pass and there's a match, they bring you back.  If not, they don't."

My friend took a long sip of his drink.  "So, let me get this straight," he said.  "You can't find a job with the federal government because you don't have a clearance, and even though you could get one, it costs too much to get you one - "

"Mm-hmm," I said. 

"But you can't find a job because private companies that may or may not be hiring can't tell you whether or not they're not hiring; but even if they AREN'T hiring, they're still willing to waste your time and theirs interviewing you for jobs that they don't have.  And even when they do interview you, they can't even give you a description of the position that they have because, in reality, that job may or may not even exist?  Do I have that right?"

"Yep," I said, sipping a bit more of my Scotch.  "See why so many people are out of work for a long time?  It's an impossible situation.  You can't apply for jobs that don't exist, and the ones that appear to exist often don't, and even if they do, you still have to compete against internal candidates or other people in the market who may be more qualified - or, come to think of it, even those who are less qualified but who might be willing to work for less money.  And you have to do this over and over and over until you just happen to land in the right place at the right time."


My friend shook his head.  "Unbelievable," he said.

"Oh, I wouldn't call it that," I said. 

"What would you call it?"

"Well," I said.  "Remember that word that describes doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results?"

Friday, December 3, 2010

Friday Funnies

A common belief holds that hiring stops during the holiday season.  While that may be largely true, it does not mean that the interview process comes to a halt along with it.  (Trust me, I have three scheduled this month; although none of them are likely to be bringing anyone on board before January given the holiday scheduling.)

With so much and nothing happening all at once, it's good to step back and have a laugh or two, so enjoy the funnies for this week. 

Onward & upward!

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Why is it always called "raw" sewage?  Does anyone actually cook that stuff?
- George Carlin

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The older I get, the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom."
  - H.L. Mencken

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A businessman decided to take a tour around his business and see how things were going.  Visiting the shipping docks, he noticed a young man leaning against a wall doing nothing whatsoever.  

"Son," he said.  "How much are you paid each day?"

"One hundred and fifty dollars," was the young man's reply. 

The boss opened his wallet.  "Here's $150.  Get out of here and don't come back until you can be productive."  The young man took the money and walked away.

A few minutes later, the shipping clerk approached the boss.  "Excuse me, sir," he said.  "Have you seen the UPS man I asked to wait for me here?"

- Anonymous
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And last but not least, a bit of video humor for that moment we've all probably had at one time or another: